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Finding my stupid doorbell transformer

Finding my stupid doorbell transformer

CraigScott999

Do you have a closet near the front door? Mine is in there up in the corner. And no, I don’t think you can tone it out. What’s the color/gauge of the wires connected to the button? Trace them as best you can. Don’t know if any of that helps but good luck.


OniNoDojo

There is a closet there that I’ve poked around in. It’s a weird layout because it’s a split level at the front so the ceiling of the garage is about half way up the door frame. The button has black/white pair going to it and it goes back to the chime on the wall I assume and the chime has a white/black/red hookup to it which has to go to the transformer but it’s in our main hallway and I am fighting the Urge to get a hammer and make ‘exploratory holes’ lol


HeadSignal3

Do you have lighted address numbers on your garage somewhere?


OniNoDojo

Oddly enough, right by the door itself, but there’s been no bulb in it forever so I forget about it. I’ll see if I can get behind it. Thanks!


CraigScott999

U may have to give in to that urge. If I was there and could see what you’ve got, I might be more help. Can’t do much more from here 🤷‍♂️


JelloKittie

Mine was actually in my garage


Kv603

> If I know what circuit it’s on, is there some other way for me to track it down? Can I tone it out similar to network cabling (I’m in IT management)? Yes, start by figuring out what breaker powers it. That'll at least give you an idea where the wiring from the breaker generally runs to (what direction, what the first box on that run is. If nothing else, you can probably find the first known device on that circuit and disconnect the incoming "line" wire from the outgoing, figure out if the bell transformer is upstream or downstream of that box.


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Shadow288

Second using a toner!


7thgentexan

In the chime housing?


OniNoDojo

I took the chime apart and couldn’t find it and there is only a very small hole through the drywall behind there for the wiring.


7thgentexan

I've also found them in the breaker box behind the cover panel wired directly to the breaker. Be careful!


tob007

Yes I've found transformer in the breaker box as well. I do have some low voltage light relays I can hear click somewhere in the walls but have never found! They still work after 50 years so hopefully they won't need to be replaced!


VoidsWarranty

I would start flipping breakers and find which circuit the doorbell is on. From there you can trace out a specific area to find the leg it's on. Mine happens to be inside my ringer but as another said I've worked on several houses that had them in the breaker panel.


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VoidsWarranty

Depends on the rating of the panel and rating of the transformer. Most house panels are pretty small so it doesn't make sense to me other than it is rated to hold AC two phase and unhoused transformers are cheaper to buy.


mcqueena9845

Mine is attached to the side of a light fixture in the basement laundry room.


spicestain

Thermal imager. Assuming it's actually powered, the transformer will stick out like a sore thumb most of the time. So will GFCI outlets.


OniNoDojo

That is a great idea. Now I have a good excuse to give my wife for why I bought a FLIR camera haha thanks!


jr81452

Take the face plate off your breaker panel and check in there. If you can see all 5 wires heading to the garage, then that is your best bet (assuming your breaker panel is in the garage). The black and white wire pair will be for the door switch, the BWR set will go to the chime.


robsaskibum

Mine was in the attic nowhere near where it made any sense


kapege

In my country they normally resides within the fuse box on a [DIN rail](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_rail) and it even looks like a double sized fuse. Pictures: [https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=hutschienentransformator&atb=v211-1&iax=images&ia=images](https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=hutschienentransformator&atb=v211-1&iax=images&ia=images)


MrKahnberg

If you're sure you won't shock you or a helper, tone it from both the chime an the circuit breaker box.


conined

Mine was attached to the side of my breaker panel(on the exterior).


crxdc0113

Mines in the chime housing.


Diligent_Nature

Look in the rooms above and below including crawl space and attic. It could be behind, or built into, the doorbell itself. You can use a toner if the circuit is dead.


sparky-58

Do you have a basement? If not check the attic If you have 120v fire alarms they r likely on the same branch circuit


Vecii

Mine was in the breaker box. You should be able to lift the leads at the breaker and tone it out.


southpark

Try taking the chime off the wall and looking behind it. It might also be nailed to a stud in your attic.


BrunoJacuzzi

mine is in the crawlspace


Instant_Bacon

Use a meter on the doorbell wires, set it to voltage, and start turning off circuits. A non contact voltage tester might even pick up the low voltage but a meter would definitely work, and let you know if you already have the correct voltage. Then you know the general area of your house to start looking. It could be mounted to the *outside* of a junction box, *behind* drywall, such as the switch closest to your doorbell. https://www.google.com/search?q=junction+box+transformer look through images to get an idea.


RedIsPositive

Dumb question, but have you looked at your electrical panel? I always see them mounted on the panel. Usually one of the sides. Sometimes the bottom of the panel. Small metal square with wires attached


OniNoDojo

I have looked around the panel, but haven't taken the face off yet. The jerks that owned this house before me framed and drywalled around the panel except for just enough space to get at it to flip breakers.


greydermis

> If I know what circuit it’s on, is there some other way for me to track it down? Can I tone it out similar to network cabling (I’m in IT management)? Yes, start by figuring out what breaker powers it. That'll at least give you an idea where the wiring from the breaker generally runs to (what direction, what the first box on that run is. If nothing else, you can probably find the first known device on that circuit and disconnect the incoming "line" wire from the outgoing, figure out if the bell transformer is upstream or downstream of that box.


Natural-Ad8184

Mine is attached to the side of my furnace, which is common practice here.


AFisch00

Mine was downstairs mounted underneath where the front door would be. My suggestion if you can find it upstairs, go downstairs and look around for small wires and those will leave to the transformer. This is assuming your basement is not finished and you can see the floor joists


nontheistzero

Got a nearby closet?


Woodchuckie

Same problem the Beverly Hillbillies had.